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	<title>Comments on: An Open Letter to Eric Zinczenko: Science Isn&#8217;t a Men&#8217;s Interest</title>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure how I feel about demanding they rename it, but I&#039;m all for women in the science/math fields  :) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how I feel about demanding they rename it, but I&#8217;m all for women in the science/math fields  :) </p>
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		<title>By: © MrBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>© MrBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ehhh, the publisher can label their magazine divisions as they see fit.

The so called and ballyhooed science/math-gender-bias appears to be genetic - passed on from parents to their children ... and if not &quot;nature&quot; then it&#039;s the &quot;nuture&quot;!

I attended a typical run-of-the-mill 4-year co-ed public high school, and both the science and math classes were equally populated by girls and boys. This was true for not only the required classes for graduation in these emphases, but also the higher elective math and science classes as well as the Advance Placement classes from which we could earn college credit while still in high school. In this arena I took AP classes in biology, chemistry, calculus, physics and the gender split was 50/50 across all of them.

I also took AP classes in the more &quot;liberal arts&quot; area including composition, western civilization, psychology, sociology (basically I did my freshman year of college through my high school AP classes, as did many of my classmates who planned from early on to attend college) and again there was a pretty even balance of girls and boys in all these classes. In purely elective study areas such as art and music the balance was still there. However, the two areas of study where there was a noticeable difference in gender balance was the industrial arts - not many girls took drafting, welding, or wood shop (I took all three), and home economics which had few boys signing up to learn how to cook and sew (no, I did not take any of the home ec type classes ... I learned to sew at home from my mother and earned a merit badge for the skill in scouts, and by the time I hit high school I was apprenticing with a chef and already could cook!)

Overall, when I was in public school, just as many girls took the same classes as boys and both genders had those that excelled in science and math, and in writing and social sciences, and sometimes in both areas. Parents and teachers expected all the children to assert themselves and learn as much as they could. Teachers were expected to teach. Parents were expected to parent their off-spring and be responsible for their upbringing. There wasn&#039;t a lot of name-calling or blame-shifting going on when it came to educating the children. And the children - we were allowed to be kids!

I don&#039;t know, maybe I went to a weird school ... we did have to go to P.E. every day from 1st through 8th grade and then we had to amass a total of 4 semesters of physical education during our high school years - that was both girls and boys! Oh, and maybe that a few weeks each year the P.E. classes were truly co-ed and we had to learn to dance. (-;

Probably the weirdest thing of all - my high school days were 30 years ago! ... guess we were just way ahead of the curve!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ehhh, the publisher can label their magazine divisions as they see fit.</p>
<p>The so called and ballyhooed science/math-gender-bias appears to be genetic &#8211; passed on from parents to their children &#8230; and if not &#8220;nature&#8221; then it&#8217;s the &#8220;nuture&#8221;!</p>
<p>I attended a typical run-of-the-mill 4-year co-ed public high school, and both the science and math classes were equally populated by girls and boys. This was true for not only the required classes for graduation in these emphases, but also the higher elective math and science classes as well as the Advance Placement classes from which we could earn college credit while still in high school. In this arena I took AP classes in biology, chemistry, calculus, physics and the gender split was 50/50 across all of them.</p>
<p>I also took AP classes in the more &#8220;liberal arts&#8221; area including composition, western civilization, psychology, sociology (basically I did my freshman year of college through my high school AP classes, as did many of my classmates who planned from early on to attend college) and again there was a pretty even balance of girls and boys in all these classes. In purely elective study areas such as art and music the balance was still there. However, the two areas of study where there was a noticeable difference in gender balance was the industrial arts &#8211; not many girls took drafting, welding, or wood shop (I took all three), and home economics which had few boys signing up to learn how to cook and sew (no, I did not take any of the home ec type classes &#8230; I learned to sew at home from my mother and earned a merit badge for the skill in scouts, and by the time I hit high school I was apprenticing with a chef and already could cook!)</p>
<p>Overall, when I was in public school, just as many girls took the same classes as boys and both genders had those that excelled in science and math, and in writing and social sciences, and sometimes in both areas. Parents and teachers expected all the children to assert themselves and learn as much as they could. Teachers were expected to teach. Parents were expected to parent their off-spring and be responsible for their upbringing. There wasn&#8217;t a lot of name-calling or blame-shifting going on when it came to educating the children. And the children &#8211; we were allowed to be kids!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, maybe I went to a weird school &#8230; we did have to go to P.E. every day from 1st through 8th grade and then we had to amass a total of 4 semesters of physical education during our high school years &#8211; that was both girls and boys! Oh, and maybe that a few weeks each year the P.E. classes were truly co-ed and we had to learn to dance. (-;</p>
<p>Probably the weirdest thing of all &#8211; my high school days were 30 years ago! &#8230; guess we were just way ahead of the curve!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, yes, yes!  A thousand times, yes!  I cringe when I hear a girl say that science is for boys, or math isn&#039;t fun.  I cringe when I hear boys say it, too, but I don&#039;t want my daughter to be ridiculed for her love of math, and figuring out how things work.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, yes!  A thousand times, yes!  I cringe when I hear a girl say that science is for boys, or math isn&#8217;t fun.  I cringe when I hear boys say it, too, but I don&#8217;t want my daughter to be ridiculed for her love of math, and figuring out how things work.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wholeheartedly agree. Rename it now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree. Rename it now!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Auerswald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Auerswald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am looking at single-sex options for boys as well. Turns out boys are freer to explore all aspects of their personalities when there aren&#039;t any girls around, I was surprised to learn. Weird how kids may do better when separated for education. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking at single-sex options for boys as well. Turns out boys are freer to explore all aspects of their personalities when there aren&#8217;t any girls around, I was surprised to learn. Weird how kids may do better when separated for education. </p>
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		<title>By: The Rebel Chick Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rebel Chick Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A-F*cking-men. We are in 2012, not 1952. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-F*cking-men. We are in 2012, not 1952. </p>
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		<title>By: JessicaGottlieb</title>
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		<dc:creator>JessicaGottlieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My daughter is very interested in two of the all girl high schools. Ultimately it will be her decision. We&#039;ll know a lot in the springtime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is very interested in two of the all girl high schools. Ultimately it will be her decision. We&#8217;ll know a lot in the springtime.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many things that science needs to figure out for us to miss out an talent because of sex bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many things that science needs to figure out for us to miss out an talent because of sex bias.</p>
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		<title>By: MiscFinds4u Team</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiscFinds4u Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I learned about the teaching bias over 10 years ago. Sad to hear it&#039;s still in play. I thought we&#039;d have moved on by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned about the teaching bias over 10 years ago. Sad to hear it&#8217;s still in play. I thought we&#8217;d have moved on by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what are you going to do on the single sex school front?  We&#039;re just learning about the teaching bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are you going to do on the single sex school front?  We&#8217;re just learning about the teaching bias.</p>
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