Questions for a Beef Farmer


It’s no secret that I’m obsessed with food and our food supply. I spent many years vegan (I recommend that to NO ONE) and many more than that vegetarian (it’s a less awful existence). I’ve personally reconciled my carnivorous ethical dilemmas by eating only organic and humanely farmed meat and dairy products whenever possible and by not wasting meat that an animal died for. With that being said, any time a farmer is willing to talk with me I have a zillion questions. I hope you enjoy this interview with Mike Haley who seems to be a really nice guy. 

Pink Slime: Everyone’s obsessed with pink slime these days. What is it? (besides a catchy name?)

Pink Slime is the phrase that is used by many to describe (in my opinion incorrectly) the meat product Lean Finely Textured Beef (LFTB). What is LFTB? When beef is butchered there are several fatty cuts that contain small amounts of valuable meat. Traditionally these cuts would be mixed into a fatty blend of hamburger but with the increased demand for lean beef a process was developed to remove the fat from the beef resulting in a lean and finely textured beef product.

What sort of ammonia is used in beef processing? Is it the stuff you find under the kitchen sink? How long has it been used?

Its a food grade ammonia gas, so it is different than the cleaner found under the kitchen sink. Ammonia has been used as a processing aid in several types of foods and was approved in 1974 by the USDA. It’s use is as an intervention to help prevent accidental spread of food borne illnesses just as many use salad rinses or sprays at home. Safety interventions are made in many steps, for beef there are several different interventions that are common like citric acid.

I’ve seen cattle graze and only because of that I know that they are supposed to eat grass and hay. I’m a total city slicker. Is beef better tasting when it’s grass fed?

We raise beef cows (different than dairy) and their calves on our farm. Like almost all beef cattlemen our cows graze on grass and hay the majority of the time as its too easy for them to get to fat on grain. Normally about 205 days after birth calves are weaned from their mom, the cow, and they normally remain on a grass pasture until they reach a point where it’s hard for them to continue gaining weight from grass alone. Some producers do leave their steers on grass all the way to their finish weight, but on our farm this would take more time, money, water and other resources so instead we move them to a feeding pen where they eat a richer diet of grain and hay. As far as taste, there is a difference in both taste and texture and I prefer meat finished on corn, but that’s a personal preference that is best left up to each individual.

Why are antibiotics used in cattle feed?

Antibiotics are very expensive to use, on our farm we use antibiotics to treat an animal when they are sick. It is important to detect and treat sick animals appropriately as their health can decline quickly and even spread disease to other animals in the pasture or barn. Occasionally during times that calves may be experiencing extra stress (during extreme shifts in the weather or at weaning) and an individual calf becomes ill we will make the decision to subtherapeutically treat other calves they are in contact with to prevent disease from spreading rampantly through our herd.

Contrary to popular belief antibiotic use in beef is limited to prevent or control disease, cattlemen have a set of quality assurance guidelines that they are expected to adhere to that state antibiotic use should not be used if the primary intent is to improve performance.

Do you farm organic beef? If so why or why not?

No we do not feed organic beef on our farm as it’s not a good fit for us nor does it seem to be a priority of our beef customers. We have several neighbors that do raise organic or grass finished beef. Their farms are different than mine and their customers are looking for something different than mine. I often find conversations with my neighbors fascinating as we both learn from each other’s operations and at times find ways to implement changes on our farms that would have never have been thought about if it were not for diversification within agriculture and our individual farms.

How do you feel when you send the cattle to slaughter? Do they ever become like pets to you? (I know you’re going to laugh at that one but I’m from LA and we watch a lot of movies)

It’s always neat to watch each group of steers grow up, and yes it can be hard at times when they head to slaughter. However I am able to do this knowing that I provided the best care I could for each animal in my care while on our farm.

What size is a serving of beef?

3 ounces, that’s about the size of a deck of cards.


Mike Haley farms alongside his father Steve and wife Pam in Ohio, where they raise corn, soybeans, wheat and cattle. He is passionate about sharing information about agriculture with others. He is active in online conversations and can be found at http://haley-farms.com and on Twitter @farmerhaley.

Cow photo with permission from Ray-Lin Dairy (tons of great photos here)


PreviLean Update: Slow to Learn


PreviLean has been a bit of a miracle for me. I gave up all the foods I am sensitive to and haven’t had indigestion since day three. For the past few years I’ve taken a Prevacid a day, I’d (incorrectly) assumed the heartburn was because of the many medications I take for RA. I’ve also lost four pounds without eating less.

So I’m establishing the fact the PreviLean has been good to me. The test seems to have been quite accurate, the counseling sessions with a nutritionist are amazing and she sends me pages of recipes that include only foods I can eat.

Nothing could be easier, right?

Well, my son had a birthday and he wanted a chocolate hazelnut cake. Why? Because he has great taste, that’s why. I did what any reasonable woman would do. I went on Google Plus and asked for recipes. Anirban Banerjee said he’d just tried a recipe from a BBC website and directed me to it. It looked simple enough and the ingredients were spot on so I gave it a go.

After a few hours of roasting hazelnuts, separating eggs and melting chocolate I had a flour-less chocolate and hazelnut cake that smelled like heaven. You could practically hear an angels harp when you stood over it. I made Alexander’s other favorites for dinner: ribs, tri tip, baked potatoes and corn. Of course none of this is any good unless you add my homemade BBQ sauce. I assure you that you don’t want to know how BBQ sauce is made, it’s sugar, honey and sugary things with a little ginger and garlic.

So we have a favorite dinner that has a few options for me that don’t include sugar and a dessert that a smart woman would skip. I’m not smart.

I could’ve eaten the tri tip and skipped the sugared ribs but I didn’t because ribs are delicious. After having strayed from my PreviLean plan with ribs (sugar is something I’m to avoid) I figured I’d have a slice of cake. It tasted better than it smelled which is something I’d never dreamed would be possible.

The next morning we packed the kids up (plus a friend for Alexander) and took off to have two days on the beach in Ventura. I packed tons of snacks for myself knowing that restaurant eating can be challenging on a good day. Well, when I had a 2pm bloody mary on Saturday good judgement went out the window. Dinner was a PreviLean disaster. It had never dawned on me that anyone would grill swordfish in butter (I’m off dairy). So now my food plan (it’s not a diet) is ruined two days in a row and when the kids want to order room service for dessert I’m feeling defeated anyhow and I order carrot cake that doesn’t even taste that great but I eat anyhow.

Sunday I wake up with a headache and no sense of what I can attribute it to. I’m not hung over, I’ve hardly had a drink. I’m thinking the butter, flour, sugar combo has packed a whallop so I add some Advil into the mix of pills I take every morning. The Advil does nothing to ease the pain so I go off the rails and eat a few bites of my daughter’s burger, bun and all.

I can’t say with certainty that the wheat is what made my head feel like it was exploding but I’m not going to be eating wheat again anytime soon. My headache lasted the whole day Sunday and I’m dutifully back to eating from the green column today.

The big bummer is that four pounds I’d lost. Guess what? I found two of them this weekend.